Episode 62

VOICE OVER:   Trigger warning! This podcast contains more common sense than most people can cope with. If you can't handle the truth, stop listening now. The Conservative Revolution starts here. This is your Weekly Dose of Common Sense with Cory Bernardi.

CORY BERNARDI:   Hello everyone, it’s Cory Bernardi here. Welcome to another Weekly Dose of Common Sense podcast.

We’ve got something a little bit different for you today. It’s not just going to be me; I’ve got some other voices coming into it. I’m going to call around and speak to some of the Australian Conservative candidates around the country. I’ll try and get them all but if not this week, we’ll see if we can get them on next week as well, just to get an update on how they’re going in the campaign and so I can say thanks to them. They’ve worked really, really hard; they’re a terrific bunch of people. We have first-class candidates – better than anyone else – and they’ve all been vetted, they’ve all got a good sense of humour, they understand what they stand for and so that means they won’t fall for anything.

So, if you want someone to represent your interest and your views, Vote 1 for the Australian Conservatives.

Yesterday morning, I was on Their ABC again with Fran Kelly and she was very nice to me but she was asking about this concept that the Labor Party had sort of floated through Chris Bowen (the Shadow Treasurer) about a mandate and saying their policies should be allowed to go through in the Senate unimpeded because they’ve been so clear and up-front about them.

Now, it’s interesting. The whole concept of a mandate is only applicable if  you win, of course. When you win, you insist that you have a mandate and your opposition says, “No you don’t, because we got elected, too.” I’m the first to admit, Labor have been up-front about many of their policies; up-front about them. They’re a bit target. The problem is the criticism of them (the targeting of them) hasn’t been really that strong but a pretty weak coalition team, I have to say. The Prime Minister has been pretty good, but they haven’t asked the most basic of questions and nowhere is this truer that in the area of tax policy.

Labor want to bring in massive changes to the tax system. The first is to get rid of negative gearing. Now, I know there are lots of people saying, “Oh, it’s a rort. It’s a rort,” and they think house prices are going up as a result – that’s not true. Negative gearing is a principle, and the principle is: when you invest in an income producing asset, you’re allowed to deduct the borrowing expenses attached to that investment. It applies to business, it applies to individuals, it applies to houses or commercial property or share portfolios or anything else that’s going to generate an income for you. And suddenly, Labor say, “We’re going to take this away.” But, do they mean they’re going to take it away for all investments? For companies or just for individuals? Is it going to apply if you buy a commercial property or does it only apply to new residential properties? No one knows the answer to these, and I’ve asked these questions again and again and again. Labor will not answer them.

If it’s selective and only applies to one asset class, the money will simply move somewhere else. If it applies to all asset classes, you’re undermining one of the most important drivers of prosperity; that people can actually borrow money to generate worth and wealth and jobs and investment in this country.

So, Labor don’t know whether they’re Arthur or Martha on this and the detail is still to be disclosed. So, strip out the emotion of it all - look at the detail. And that’s why you need Australian Conservatives Senators.

But there’s other big tax issues at work here: Capital Gains Tax. Once again, the class of envy, the politics of envy says, “Oh. These big wigs are making huge capital gains and they should pay more tax on them.” Well, the reality is an investment of $1,000 today – because inflation rises incrementally – the cost base has historically been accommodated since Capital Gains Tax was introduced, and the method was to apply an indexation to it. This became cumbersome, it became unwieldly, it required complex calculations so that at the end of it instead of having a cost base of $1,000 it might come out to $1,024. You sell it for $1,050 and you pay tax on the $26 in difference. The government – in a rare sign of common sense – said, “That’s all too hard. It just enriches the accountants. What we’ll do, is we’ll take away that indexation and we’ll say, “If you hold an asset for 12 months or more, then you only pay tax on 50% of the gain.” So, about the same; some people are going to win, some people are going to lose, but it was simple and easy to understand.

Labor, of course, want to change that. Not because they’re going to make things easier for you, but they know they can get massively engorged by this at taxpayer’s expense. Because right now, inflation is pretty benign; it’s about zero – that’s why we’re likely to get an interest rate cut in the months ahead. But, inflation will come back. Asset prices will rise as a result of that. The value of money will diminish as a result of inflation and Labor will get windfall profits if they can get this Capital Gains Tax change through.

And the third area where they want to tinker around with stuff that’s associated to tax (and I’ll get to that in a moment) is they want to bring back penalty rates so that low income people and particularly those who work on the weekends, can have more money in their pocket. Now, that’s a laudable aim; I’m with that, I want people to have more money in their pocket. But you can do it without penalising employers.

If people aren’t prepared to employ someone, they can’t afford to employ people, everyone’s a loser. The shops don’t open, people don’t have jobs, the taxes aren’t paid.

So, what do all these things have in common? They can all be relieved by cutting taxes.

If you cut taxes, then people will have more money in their pockets and that means those on low incomes, those on medium incomes, those on higher incomes, will have more money to spend. It’s their money after all. They earned it.

Secondly, negative gearing. You want to remove the attraction, the tax benefits that are attached to negative gearing outside a commercial rationale? Well, if you’re not trying to get out of paying as much tax then you’ve got to stack it up on investment fundamentals rather than the tax fundamentals. So, if people are paying less tax – they’re paying a lower rate of tax – then the incentives for negative gearing are diminished and in fact, the deductions will be diminished as well because it’s highly likely the income will exceed the interest expense.

And it’s the same with the Capital Gains Tax regime.

Why complicate it further? Why not maintain it at its current level, lower the rate of tax? You know why they don’t? Because all of those things would empower the consumer, would empower the investor, would empower the Australian public at the expense of a money-hungry, veracious, utopian, socialist ideal that people are trying to inflict upon this country through government.

Just remember, every dollar they take from your neighbour or your friend or someone who’s earning more than you, every dollar they take from you empowers them to do even more dumb things. And I tell you now, government isn’t so good that we need more of it. In fact, when I speak to people, I say, “Do you like what the government’s doing? It doesn’t matter if it’s the blue one or the red one.” They say, “No. They’re hopeless.” And you say, “Well, why do you want more of it?”

We need to bring back common sense. We need to attack the problems of this country at their root cause and they start at government, they start at policy agenda they’ve got to implement, and we’ve got to make sure more and more people understand it.

That’s why you’re part of the Common Sense community. I’m sure many of you are going to have a chat with me about this and want to send through some emails. You can do so: cory@corybernardi.com .

We’ve got one more podcast before the election, so next week we’ll turn it into Your Say Election Special. Let me know what you think.

I’ll be back.

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CORY BERNARDI:   And now on the Common Sense podcast, I’m tapping into Western Australia where I’ve got Jonathan Crabtree on the line; an accomplished young man, a family man, a good husband, a good father and a great candidate. Welcome to the Common Sense podcast, Jonathan.

JONATHAN CRABTREE:   Thank you, Cory. It’s great to be here and ‘hello’ to the Common Sense community.

CORY BERNARDI:   How’s the campaign going, Jon?

JONATHAN CRABTREE:   Yes, it’s going very well, thanks. We’re really punching holes out of the Conservative bubble. So, those who haven’t heard about us before, we’re thinking of ways to reach them so we’ve got ads playing on 6PR, we’ve got Facebook being boosted, we’ve got core flutes going up on the streets and we’ve also got text messages as well – our campaign is running hot with that. So, we’re very excited.

CORY BERNARDI:   It’s fascinating. I saw some of the response to the text messages and people who knew you were saying what a good guy you were, how you’ve run a really clean and decent campaign and that you’re a great candidate. That makes me, as a founder of a political party, really feel privileged to have someone like you as part of the campaign because it’s not easy. You know that. It puts a lot of pressure on you and the family. How’s all that going for you?

JONATHAN CRABTREE:   Thanks, Cory. That’s great to hear.

Yes, as you said, I’m a husband to my wife, Jan, and we’ve got two young kids and honestly, she’s got the harder job at this point. You know, it’s a hard race and I’m working as hard as I can but I wouldn’t be able to do this without my wife. She is absolutely critical support for me and without her I just wouldn’t be in the position I am to do this. So, I’m very grateful to her.

CORY BERNARDI:   Mate, I think you’ll find behind every good man is an even better woman. I’ve got to say that’s very true in my case and I admit I married and I am punching well above my weight when it comes to my partner in life, so I’m sure you are too, my friend.

JONATHAN CRABTREE:   Yes, absolutely.

CORY BERNARDI:   Jonathan, good luck on the 18th. It’s great to have you part of the Common Sense community and it’s really good to have you on the Weekly Dose of Common Sense podcast. I hope and I know we will catch up again through this medium very, very soon.

JONATHAN CRABTREE:   Thank you, Cory. If I could just say a special ‘hello’ to all of the listeners in Western Australia; I really appreciate all of your support.

CORY BERNARDI:   Well said, my friend. If you want to support Jonathan Crabtree is Western Australia, Vote 1 Australian Conservatives.

I’ll be back.

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CORY BERNARDI:   Continuing our travels across the country where we’re speaking with all the candidates for the Australian Conservatives.

I’ve got South Australian candidate, Rikki Lambert on the line. Hello Rikki.

RIKKI LAMBERT: G’day Cory, g’day listeners.

CORY BERNARDI:   How’s your campaign going?

RIKKI LAMBERT:   Well, I’m very happy with how it’s going and being a country person I’m making sure that we see every corner of the state that’s humanly possible; so, we’ve been all over South Australia and it’s gone really well. Country people really like our message of common sense and city people love it as well. People love that they’re actually being thought of and someone wants to stand up for them in the Senate.

CORY BERNARDI:   Yes, a lot of political candidates pay lip-service to regional areas or country areas, seeking some votes just at election time. But, you’re someone who has lived in the country, grown up in the country, continue to reside there, and so there is this genuine understanding and commitment to what it means to live in a regional area.

RIKKI LAMBERT:   Well, I come back to when you started Australian Conservatives, you mentioned Menzies as one of your inspirations. You talked about the forgotten people, and country people do feel like the forgotten people out there. It doesn’t matter which state you’re in, they feel like politics serves the interests of the city in particular and I find that the conservative, common sense of Australia’s past and present is very strong in the regional areas. So, we just find it’s easier work in the country areas but that’s not to say in metropolitan areas that sort of thinking doesn’t exist. In fact, in places where they’re well established areas, people really love our message about self-reliance and personal responsibility.

CORY BERNARDI:   Yes, and it’s amazing how much coverage you’ve actually been getting in South Australia. You had two hours on a radio station on Sunday night, I know you appear in numerous editions of newspapers around the state as well and on regional radio all the time. People must be delighted to know that someone is actually consistently been their advocate and their representative even though you haven’t been a part of the parliamentary party.

RIKKI LAMBERT:  Yes, it’s taken a huge amount of work, Cory. I tell our supporters, “When you see a candidate or a Senator in a media appearance, it’s a bit like seeing the tip of the iceberg. There’s a whole lot of work behind the scenes to make that happen – a whole lot of rejections that you get when you try and get in the media as a candidate.”

I just put a lot of early work during the campaign into profiling myself with those outlets in the city and in the country areas, and thankfully some of them have given me a go and they’ve appreciated that I’ve spoken common sense. When you get on the radio, for instance, the switchboard lights up and people want to engage with you and that’s the easy way to make sure you get back on the station.

CORY BERNARDI:   And that’s exactly what politics is meant to be about: engaging with people, making those switchboards light up so that people get in touch with you so you can reflect and represent their issues.

Rikki, I’m so proud to have you as a candidate for the Australian Conservatives. The work you’ve been doing has been extraordinary and I hope it will be rewarded on 18 May. Thanks so much for joining the Common Sense podcast.

RIKKI LAMBERT:   Thank, Cory.

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CORY BERNARDI:   Listeners, as I’ve said, we have candidates right across the country; they’re outstanding candidates.

In a state that’s what, ten times the state of Texas, Queensland, we’ve got people down south, out west and up north and one of those is Kate Horan from Townsville. Kate’s on the line. Welcome.

KATE HORAN:   Thank you, Cory. It’s great to be here.

CORY BERNARDI:   Well, it’s good to have you part of – not only the podcast, of course – the Australian Conservatives team, and so far north from where I am in the bunker here in Adelaide. It’s an amazing part of the world, North Queensland.

KATE HORAN:   Yes, it is the Promised Land; I’m right at home in North Queensland.

CORY BERNARDI:   The ‘Promised Land’, I like that. It’s full of big characters; people with big hats and big egos and bigger wallets. You just seem so normal. What happened?

KATE HORAN:   Probably because I am South Australian born and bred. So, I do have to pay credit to SA because Queensland politics is an eye-opener; my goodness. In fact, I was talking to a reporter from the local paper and I mentioned that, “Look, Conservatives are pretty sane and stable,” and she seized on that. She goes, “I love it. I see exactly what you mean.”

CORY BERNARDI:   Maybe that should be our catchcry: ‘We are sane and stable. Vote for us.’

KATE HORAN:   Sane and stable, yes indeed.

CORY BERNARDI:   It’s an amazing campaign you’re running up there, I have to tell you. You’ve got people on the polling booths, you’ve got people engaged, you’ve got cars being wrapped, you’ve got billboards up, it’s sensational to see you flying the Conservative flag.

KATE HORAN:   Thank you, Cory. Our message is resonating so, so well with people in the north. We’re just getting our brand out, getting that message to people, getting people to get that message to people. And look, we’re just longevity, here. It’s a message that needs to be told and we’re just going to give it our all and just keep persisting now and into the future.

CORY BERNARDI:   Well, because it’s too important to give up. We know there’s Catherine Wheels in politics; those that burn brightly and spin around and make lots of noise but they don’t have the answers and eventually they fizzle out. The Australian Conservatives is different. We have candidate selection (first and foremost), policy principles to uphold and we want to make Australia a better place and that’s why you’re part of the team we’re thankful – I’m thankful - that you are part of the Australian Conservatives team. So, thank you very much, Kate, for being one of our candidates in Queensland.

KATE HORAN:   Thank you for having me, Cory. It’s been a privilege.

CORY BERNARDI:   Now I’ve got Lyle Shelton on the line, and Lyle Shelton will be no stranger to many of you because he was not only the former head of the Australian Christian Lobby, he’s been a high-profile candidate for us and he’s leading the Senate ticket in Queensland. Welcome to the Common Sense podcast, Lyle.

LYLE SHELTON:   Thank you very much, Cory. Good to be with you.

CORY BERNARDI:   It’s always a pleasure to have you on. I know you’re no stranger to this podcast and in fact you have your own vlogcast that goes on, is that right?

LYLE SHELTON:   Well, I have, Cory, but you’ve had me so busy as a candidate for the last few weeks, it has fallen by the wayside in favour of campaigning, which I hope will be the right thing.

CORY BERNARDI:   That’s what I like to hear and I hope it’s going to be rewarded for you because our candidates, Lyle, have been working so hard right across the country and you are no exception. I joined you last week and it was just amazing the effort that you and Kate and Jo have put in up there in Queensland, and the message that you were saying to the audiences was just mesmerising because it made so much sense to me.

LYLE SHELTON:   Well, I’m glad to hear that, Cory, and I’m glad you enjoyed my story about infiltrating the vegan convoy because it’s these hard-Green lefties that are destroying our country in many ways and at least we can have some fun along the way by triggering a few Greens.

CORY BERNARDI:   Yes, I think you’ve probably triggered a few people by mentioning the hard-Green, vegan convoy. For those who are unaware of this story, Lyle went, like, undercover-vegan one night about one in the morning, joined the vegan brotherhood as they stormed the bastilles of a farm; well, it was an invasion really, wasn’t it, Lyle?

LYLE SHELTON:   It was. They chained themselves to the abattoir equipment; a family business outside Warwick. It’s terrorism, pure and simple, and the Greens political party support this type of lawlessness and unfortunately our political class have not been doing enough (apart from yourself, Cory) to push back on Green-Left ideology.

CORY BERNARDI:   I should clarify though, Lyle, that you weren’t there joining them, you were there spying on them.

LYLE SHELTON:   Oh, I was.

CORY BERNARDI:  You asked them a few questions that they really didn’t want to answer. And you know the Greens, you’re right, Lyle. Yesterday, one of our volunteers at a booth here in South Australia, was actually assaulted by a Greens candidate. A Greens candidate assaulted a booth volunteer; a woman who was simply handing out How-to-Votes for an alternative political party. Shameful indictment on the Green politics in this country.

LYLE SHELTON:   Absolutely. They have no compunction about taking the law into their own hands. Disconcerting, Cory (I’m sure you’ve heard this as well) but on polling booths yesterday for me here in Brisbane, the Greens volunteers saying to people, “We’ll give you free dental, free university education, free stuff from the government.” Just no sense of reality as to how you’re going to pay for it once you’ve closed down the coal industry, once you’ve closed down the cattle and sheep industry because they contribute to global warming, supposedly. So, they really are a million miles from reality, but sadly, people are buying it because people don’t hear the alternative argument put because too many politicians are too fearful and are cowered by the political correctness that’s ruining our nation.

CORY BERNARDI:   And that’s why we need more Australian Conservatives. That’s why Queensland needs Lyle Shelton and I want to say, Lyle, thanks for all your hard work, good luck in the election and thanks for joining us on the Common Sense podcast.

LYLE SHELTON:   Thanks, Cory. It’s been a privilege to be a part of the team and we’re looking forward to the 18th.

CORY BERNARDI:   Thanks, Lyle.

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CORY BERNARDI:   Welcome back, this is Your Weekly Dose of Common Sense. You know I love hearing from you and I had this one particular email this week that I’ve got to devote a brief, couple of minutes to. And, it’s from someone who works in the Australian Taxation Office in Canberra or the People’s Republic of the ACT as they’ve described it – which I happen to agree with.

Anyway, he says, “There’s a process of cultural engineering being forced upon employees at the ATO and across the public service under the guise of ‘diversity’.” He noticed it last year when a weekly learning and development email was sent out identifying corporate training for ATO employees and the very first offering for these employees was nothing to do with the administration of the Tax Act or skills involved in doing their jobs effectively; instead, it was a course entitled ‘Transgender Awareness’. My correspondence immediate reaction was, “What the hell does this have to do with executing the duties as an officer of the ATO and why are taxpayers’ funds being used to do this?” It’s a darn good question. “An even better question though, is, what can we do to stop the public service from engaging in this diversity nonsense? Maybe get them to focus on their jobs to deliver services to the Australian public.” Well, the answer to that is, of course, to elect more Australian Senators; bring some common sense back to Canberra. Anyway, I digress – as I’m prone to do on occasions.

My correspondence says, “It hasn’t let up since then.” On and on, it goes, and today when he logged on to his computer at the ATO he saw a splash screen that was pushed up as part of the login process. Now, listeners, you can’t see this splash screen but I can. It’s a big orange thing, it’s got a crescent bejewelled, quarter moon on it and it says, “Ramadan is here. For more information, search ‘diversity’ on MyATO.” Imagine forcing awareness of a religious celebration that has nothing to do with our culture or our way of life as part of a diversity push. It’s just what we need. I wonder – I wonder how many Christian religious celebrations, feast days, are acknowledged in the ATO. If you know, if you work at the ATO or in the public service and you get splash screens celebrating the birth of Jesus or the resurrection or other religious holidays that are actually pertinent and relevant to our way of life, our culture and our value system, let me know: cory@corybernardi.com .

VOICE OVER:   Keep listening. This is Your Weekly Dose of Common Sense with Cory Bernardi.

CORY BERNARDI:   Joining me now from Sydney is superstar candidate, I can say that, the fantastic Sophie York. Welcome to the Common Sense podcast, Sophie.

SOPHIE YORK:   Hi Cory, and ‘hello’ to all your listeners. It’s great to be with you.

CORY BERNARDI:   It’s great to be talking with you again; you’re always so enthusiastic and optimistic. I wish I had that energy that you always display, so congratulations on a good campaign.

SOPHIE YORK:   You’re inspiration. Thank you.

CORY BERNARDI:   Tell me, Sophie. How’s the campaign been going for you?

SOPHIE YORK:   Good, good. Look, there’s so much goodwill out there. No, it’s been very exciting.

Been getting around to lot of different community groups and been visiting railways stations and events and mixing with everyday Australians and it’s just been lovely. The reception has been very warm; people understand our message - they do want common sense in the parliament and that’s what we represent.

It’s very heartening and we’ve got volunteers coming forward left, right and centre. So, this is all good – this is all good.

CORY BERNARDI:   Well Sophie, I hope you’re rewarded on election day. I love your appearances with the magician, the superstar of Sky on the weekend and that’s Rowan Dean and the Outsiders team. You’ve put in some spectacular performances, there.

SOPHIE YORK:   Thank you, Cory. He is a champion and he’s bold and he’s brave and he’s happy to put the truth out there and I think the public want that - they crave that.

CORY BERNARDI:   Yes, and it does take a lot of courage to do it and that’s why I’m heartened – and I’ve said this to a number of our candidates, Sophie. I’m heartened that people of such integrity, that have such courage, that have a commitment to values, are prepared to put themselves forward to be candidates for – not only a start-up party like the Australian Conservatives, but to get into politics full-stop because it’s not for the faint of heart but we can’t all leave it to someone else otherwise the Left will take it over completely.

SOPHIE YORK:   Oh, no! Don’t say that! No, no. Cory, and thank you for carving the path for us because if you hadn’t done that, if you hadn’t stepped out boldly and started this party then we wouldn’t be where we are now and it’s catching on - the message is getting out there. So, thank you.

CORY BERNARDI:   It’s kind of you to say. Sophie York, it’s good of you to be part of the Common Sense community, it’s great to have you as a candidate and best of luck on 18 May.

SOPHIE YORK:   Thank you very much, Cory. Thank you.

VOICE OVER:   If you think politics needs more common sense and less clowns, you’ve come to the right place. This is Your Weekly Dose of Common Sense.

CORY BERNARDI:   Continuing our trip right around Australia to talk with our Lead Senate candidates. I’ve now got Justin Stringer on the line from Tasmania. Hello, Justin. Welcome to the Common Sense podcast.

JUSTIN STRINGER:   How are you, Cory?

CORY BERNARDI:   I’m really well, thanks, and how are you, mate? That’s a really important question.

JUSTIN STRINGER:   I’m doing well, mate. I’m travelling around Tasmania at the moment, getting a great response form everybody and it’s been a great campaign so far.

CORY BERNARDI:   It was great to be joining you last week, I had to say, in Tasmania. It’s a beautiful island, people are really nice and there was such a positive vibe there. Are you getting that – not just in Hobart where we were, but from right around the island?

JUSTIN STRINGER:   That’s right. I’m finding that people are actually more relieved that there is a conservative party out there that stands up for their values as well, because they’re finding that the old parties have lost their touch. So, they’re actually been positive to our party.

CORY BERNARDI:   Well, mate, that’s nice to hear, too, because the old parties have lost their touch. One of them is going to form government, of course, but then the question is: who do you trust to keep them to account, to keep them honest and to deliver common sense policies and I think the answer to that is the Australian Conservatives. In fact, I know the answer to that is the Australian Conservatives. So, if anyone’s in Tasmania and they want to vote for the Australian Conservatives, how do they do it, Justin? What do they have to do?

JUSTIN STRINGER:   Well, they just have to get into the pre-polling booths or on polling day itself. They need to vote in Box A for Australian Conservatives and follow along to 6 to whoever of your choice.

And the same in the Lower House, as well. We do not have representatives in the Lower House, so it’s of your choice of your area that you think of.

CORY BERNARDI:   And here we go: A for the Australian Conservative; A for the A Team. Vote 1 in Box A if you want to support Justin Stringer. Thanks for joining us on the Common Sense podcast, mate.

JUSTIN STRINGER:   Thank you, Cory.

VOICE OVER:   Keep listening. This is Your Weekly Dose of Common Sense.

CORY BERNARDI:   One of the most talked about segments I’ve ever had on the Common Sense podcast was my interview with Kevin Bailey, and so I’ve dialled in. Kevin, you’re with us again. Welcome back.

KEVIN BAILEY:   G’day, Cory. Great to be back.

CORY BERNARDI:   How are you feeling about your campaign?

KEVIN BAILEY:   Well, we’ve done everything we could possibly do. It’s now up to the voters in Victoria to put their mark on the paper for Australian Conservatives. I think we’ve given them every reason to believe that we are far more credible than any of the alternatives. If we’re going to keep them honest and hold them to account in the major parties; we’re the ones to do it. So, we’ve got our message out there. We’ve done every single thing that we could have done. We left so stone unturned.

We haven’t had the $50m that Clive Palmer or we don’t have the sob stories of others, but nevertheless we’ve been very, very credible and it’s been a great campaign; a lot of fun and we’ve had such tremendous supporters that have been heroic in their efforts to get our message out there. People care, and so it’s just been a real privilege to work with them all over the last several months.

CORY BERNARDI:   That’s wonderful to hear. And you know, you’re right. People do care. They care about the country, they know the major parties are letting them down and if they really want common sense solutions, they will vote for Kevin Bailey and they will vote for the Australian Conservatives because we’ve got the best candidates, I think we’ve got the best policies but we don’t have the histrionics or the emotional turmoil that seem to plague other parties and it’s great to have you as part of this team, Kevin.

KEVIN BAILEY:   It’s great to be there, Cory. No, fantastic, and looking forward to the result when it all gets counted up and added up and let the people decide.

CORY BERNARDI:   Yes, it’s not long now. Let’s keep plugging away. Keep working hard because it’s been a fantastic campaign and you deserve every single success on 18 May. Thanks for joining us on the Common Sense podcast.

KEVIN BAILEY:   Real pleasure. Thanks, Cory.

CORY BERNARDI:   Cheers.

And we’re going back to Queensland to talk with another one of the Australian Conservative candidates. This is a former colleague of mine from the Senate, Joanna Lindgren. Welcome, Joanna.

JOANNA LINDGREN:   Thank you, Cory. Great to be back and lovely to chat to you once again.

CORY BERNARDI:   Yes, that’s right, of course; you’ve been on the podcast before when we went through your history, your relatives, your contribution to the Senate and you’re still as enthusiastic as ever about politics, is that right?

JOANNA LINDGREN:   Yes, and you forgot my love of cats.

CORY BERNARDI:   Oh, the love of cats. That’s because I’m a dog person.

Now, this is going to trigger so many people calling in and saying, “How can you not like cats?” It’s not that I don’t like cats, it’s just I prefer dogs.

JOANNA LINDGREN:   The same with me, but the opposite direction. The opposite way.

CORY BERNARDI:   Well there you go. Hopefully we won’t get any trigger warnings out of it.

But I tell you, Jo, an amazing reception you’ve had in Queensland. You’ve been doing the hard yards, if I can put it, the less-celebrated things; standing on the polling booths, going out to regional communities, talking to the local mayors, all the stuff that doesn’t get you the fanfare but is so effective and so important for politicians, so congratulations.

JOANNA LINDGREN:   Thank you. Yes, it’s really important to interact with the grassroots people and let them know and get to meet someone who they’re going to vote for and that personal contact is so important for constituents.

CORY BERNARDI:   It sure is. And Jo, you taught me something last week. You know, you can teach an old dog new tricks (or an old cat new tricks, how about that) and you gave me a quick briefing on the Fabian Society (which I knew were terrible of course, and full of socialist lefties) but you traced it back to its Roman origins and who it was named after and their method of attack was skirmish and ambush and a war of attrition, basically, is that right?

JOANNA LINDGREN:   That’s correct, and one thing about this society is that they’re quite resilient and I’d like to think that as a party we’re very resilient as well. And regardless of the result, Cory, we’ll be just as resilient as the Left are and we will build on our resilience and people will sit up and take notice of the Australian Conservatives in the future as well.

CORY BERNARDI:   You know, it’s really important point, Jo, that when I started this party – and you know the vision behind it – it was never about ‘Cory Bernardi’. I’m just a vassal, I’m just a voice. But, it’s not ‘Cory Bernardi’s Australian Conservatives’ it’s ‘Australian Conservatives’ because we are building something for the long term. Something to withstand and provide a ballast for this country to say, “You need some common sense. No matter who forms government, you need a common sense filter; some people who are anchored in principle to stand up for your values, our values, the shared valued that have made this country such a good one.”

JOANNA LINDGREN:   Absolutely, and it’s particularly relevant now. We know that the government is either going to be the red team or the blue team and they need to take out that third party insurance and make sure they put principled Conservatives into the Senate to make sure that whoever governs sticks to the principles of conservatism and does the right thing by Australians.

CORY BERNARDI:   You’re absolutely right. Joanna Lindgren, thanks for joining us again on the Common Sense podcast. Good luck on 18 May and I look forward to speaking to you on this medium very soon.

JOANNA LINDGREN:   Thanks, Cory. Talk to you soon.

CORY BERNARDI:   Well, that’s all we’ve got time for on this episode of the Weekly Dose of Common Sense podcast. Thanks for tuning in. It’s always good to have your feedback so keep it coming: cory@corybernardi.com . I love bringing this podcast to you and I love talking with good people all around the country, whether it be from the bunker here in Adelaide or from my four wheel drive as I’m touring around South Australia or a hotel room – anywhere in the country, the Weekly Dose of Common Sense is a pleasure to put together.

So, thanks for being part of it. Thanks for spreading the message. Next week, we are going to have a special edition where I’m going to answer all of your questions (or as many as I possibly can) to do with the election whether it be policy or process. Because, we need to make sure the Common Sense message resonates and is heard very strongly on 18 May.

So, stay tuned, tune in, send me an email: cory@corybernardi.com . And remember, you’re going to get more common sense here in 30 minutes that you will in a whole year of Their ABC.

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